Local 825’s Lalevee says automation isn’t killing union jobs, it’s changing them — so his union must update training, too
January 16, 2020
Greg Lalevee remembers the silence.
Yes, he remembers the reaction he got when he would tell members of the International Union of Operating Engineers Local 825 that automation is coming. (Not necessarily good.)
And he remembers the reaction he got when he explained how jobs are not necessarily going away — they are just changing. (Not necessarily believed.)
But, mostly, he remembers when he showed members of Local 825 a video of autonomous equipment at work on a wind farm in North Dakota.
“Suddenly, the room got quiet,” he said. “Because this is very real.”
Lalevee, the business manager of Local 825, was speaking at the recent ROI-NJ Thought Leadership Series, “Training the Next Generation: Vo-Tech’s Evolution as Your Workforce Solution.”
Lalevee said he views Local 825 as an economic development engine for the state. And he understands that means more training — continual training — both on the job through apprenticeships and prior to that, at local vocational-technical schools.
“We’ve been training operators for a hundred years now, and want to do it for a hundred more,” he said. “We’re moving along into a new world for us, one where we’re changing our educational platform to be responsive to new technology. I’m looking forward to having conversations about how we can do that and how we can work together to create pathways into a job of an operating engineer.
“It’s a part of our mission now to destigmatize blue-collar labor to make people understand that it’s a good career path — and to also put the educational piece in it, so that we can tell mom and dad we’re not abandoning the education, it’s not going to be a binary choice. We’re working on blending apprenticeship with traditional education, so that would attract people to do a lot of the careers.”
Lalevee said Local 825 is so dedicated to the cause that it is on a path to open a school itself.
“What we’re doing from an educational perspective is raising our platform to be responsive to the technology that’s coming in,” he said. “We’re operators of heavy equipment. The reality is that autonomous control is moving into what we do. That doesn’t mean the work is going to go away. That means the work is going to change. So that means we have to change — to train that way.
“We’re moving in a direction where we’re going to be able, probably sometime by the end of 2020, to become a degree-issuing Institute ourselves. It will be one where we are responsive to autonomous control, to mechanical engineering, to the things that are in the construction space and in the equipment operating and equipment maintenance space that we believe workers are going to have to gravitate towards.”
That will come with working with industry, Lalevee said.
“We’ve gotten into more conversations with employers about how we bridge the gap from a high schooler into employment,” he said. “Because, in a lot of instances, there is a space where more training is necessary and needed. We think we offer a spot in that space to talk about what a training program would look like. And we’re nimble enough to create things like that. That’s going to make this educational platform more powerful.
“Our goal is to make employers profitable. That’s what we really do: Train a workforce that comes in and makes a business succeed.”
There is no alternative path, Lalevee said, citing storage, bandwidth and computing speed as the impetus for change.
“There’s the classic change-or-die message,” he said. “When those things collide, things change rapidly and quickly.”
Lalevee is making sure the International Union of Operating Engineers is ready.
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